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'You Can Just Jolly Well Catch Up' | PTSD and Productivity with Illustrator ELYSSA RIDER – The Invisible Cabaret Podcast: Mental Health & The Arts

More creativity and mental health podcast chat with Ferrero Rochelle and Rosie Verbose! We had the pleasure of chatting to illustrator and sex-educator, Elyssa Rider, about her experience of EMDR therapy, managing burnout as a freelance content creator, and representing the world as she thinks it ought to be. We covered a LOAD of great stuff but please be aware there is a lot of discussion about treating trauma of various kinds, so please check in with yourself before listening and feel free to skip using the time stamps below ❤️
Check out Elyssa’s art on Instagram: @elyssa_rider, and the charity she works for, Brook, on their website and on Instagram at @brook_sexpositive.
Some useful links for mental health issues mentioned in this episode: PTSD; racism & mental health; burn-out; mental health during Covid-19. You can find more mental health resources on our website.
If you’d like to find out more about EMDR therapy, you might like to listen to our episode with CBT-specialised therapist, Brian (AKA Ferrero Rochelle’s Dad!)
If you’re affected by any of the issues raised in this episode, please do not be afraid to seek support. Help is available. The NHS website has a great directory to get you started.
So you’re traumatised or you’re experiencing something horrific, your body goes into fight-or-flight and then maybe your body is like, ‘Run’, but there’s something which prevents you from running or something else happens, which means that that memory, as it’s happening, gets stuck and it doesn’t process correctly. You basically are like a record that is stuck. What EMDR therapy does is it brings it back up, triggers all the kind of automatic nervous system stuff in your body and then you force it to be processed, which is difficult, you know, if we’re talking about traumatic memories, something that may’ve caused you to have PTSD, that could be something that’s very difficult for you to do, and maybe that’s something that you’re not ready to do, and that’s okay, but I will say, boy, does it work! Oh my gosh.
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Things mentioned in the podcast:
CW: brief mentions of racism (4:17 – 5:10 and 24:40 – 26:03); street harassment (9:57 – 10:42 and 24:20 – 26:03); PTSD and trauma (15:40 – 22:00).
- EMDR (not to be confused with EDM)
- Elyssa’s Street Harassment Diaries: here and here
- Elyssa Rider’s illustration & shop
- Butterfly Sailor Moon meme
- Rosie Verbose’s singing livestreams are available to watch on her Instagram: @rosieverbose
- Catfish: the TV show
- Queer Christmas cards!
- Ruby Rare’s book, ‘A S-x Guide for Adults’
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With thanks to: Matt Ennis, www.mennismixing.co.uk. Music: Shades of Spring by Kevin MacLeod, available under license: creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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