Clowning, Creativity and C-PTSD on The Invisible Cabaret Podcast (S1:E5)

You can listen to Episode 5 here!

Episode 5 of #InvisiblePodcast brings you an interview with London-based actor and our ‘resident clown’, Kate Mounce, AKA Mouncealot. Ferrero Rochelle and Rosie Verbose enjoy a fun and meaningful chat around the subject of mental health and the art of clowning. Firstly, what is C-PTSD? Is that different to BPD? Is there a difference between laughing at vs. laughing with? Then, what about trauma and its effects on the body? How on earth do you navigate vulnerability in performance, and making work that comes from your deepest, raw self? In this, we will tackle all of the above. All in about half an hour. Who says we’re not having a productive quarantine?

Mouncealot performing her act about C-PTSD at an Invisible Cabaret show. She is stood on stage with her arms flung wide, wearing a pair of red pasties and is halfway through removing a cumbersome bodysuit.
Mouncealot in action – Photo credit: Richard McKenzie, AKA The Burly Photographer

You can find Mouncealot online at @mouncealot83 and via her theatre company, Beside Ourselves Collective (@besideourselves on Instagram and TikTok).

Things mentioned in the podcast:

If you enjoyed this episode, you might like to hear more about the subject of trauma. As such, you might like our episode about trauma therapy and art with illustrator Elyssa Rider. Alternatively, if you’d like to hear a mental health professional’s approach, you should check out our episode with CBT therapist, Papa Ferrero!


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With thanks to: Matt Ennis,

Music: Shades of Spring by Kevin MacLeod, available under license:

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